The Magicians’ Podcast


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Jan 18th, 2019 by magicianspodcast at 6:00 am

Tim Clothier is the CEO of Illusion Projects INC a Las Vegas company who specialise in the design and construction of theatrical stage illusions, the company builds props for the best and most famous magicians in the world including David Copperfield and Criss Angel. Tim's journey in magic actually began in the UK, he is in fact from the west country and in this interview he shares the story of his incredible journey from a competing young magician in the UK to setting up shop a stones throw from the Las Vegas strip.

Also in this episode Richard talks to Andreas Sucker who takes care of the PR for the German magic superstars The Ehrlich Brothers and gets a sneak peak of what the audience can expect at their first UK supershow at Wembley Arena on April 6th 2019.


Jan 11th, 2019 by magicianspodcast at 6:00 am

For the first time ever a previous guest returns to The Magicians' Podcast hot seat for a catch up. Richard Cadell was the guest on Episode 31 back in 2015 and shared his amazing journey from fairground ride operator to stage illusionist through to the owner of Sooty & Co. In this episode he updates us with what he's been up to since that interview and discusses the exciting potential Sooty movie, How and why he decided to get back into performing illusions and subsequently closing the Blackpool Magicians Convention Gala show with them in 2018, his time as IBM President and also gives us an exciting insight into what audiences can expect from the 2019 UK tour called Sooty's Magic Show. 

Jan 4th, 2019 by magicianspodcast at 6:00 am

In this episode I chat to Los Angeles based performer Kayla Drescher who provides a fascinating insight into life as a gigging Close-Up Magician in the USA. Kayla won a competition a few years ago where David Copperfield searched for the next great magician on a TV show and choose Kayla as the overall winner and took her on a tour of his incredible warehouse and museum in Las Vegas, she shares the story of that incredible experience here. Kayla is also one of the cast members of Champions of Magic and discusses her time with the show.

Also in this episode Alan Hudson returns to discuss 'whats going on' and a competition is launched in association with Giggio to win a Gold Pass for this years Blackpool Magic Convention.

Kayla Drescher is the co-host of her own podcast called Shezam which you can listen to here:

Dec 28th, 2018 by magicianspodcast at 6:00 am

Matt Edmondson is known to the public as a Radio and Television presenter however he spent his teenage years as a member of The Young Magicians Club. How does a driven and ambitious teenager go from selling Svengali Decks in Greenwich Market to being chosen by Simon Cowell to present one of the biggest Saturday night TV shows? The answers are within this podcast. Matt also discusses how he sees magic on TV being showcased over the next few years.

Dec 21st, 2018 by magicianspodcast at 6:00 am

How does a performer go from ballet dancer to one of the worlds most in demand stage illusionists? Via Hans Klok of course!

Josephine Lee's rise to Britain's Got Talent Semi Finalist and a star in The Illusionists is fascinating, in this interview she walks us through her journey and talks about the incredible work ethic instilled in her by Hans that continues with her own work to this day.

Dec 14th, 2018 by magicianspodcast at 6:00 am

The new series begins with the winner of season 10 of America's Got Talent. Paul Zerdin began his professional life as a magician and shares the reason he moved away from magic and into the world of ventriloquism after a conversation with an agent. Paul talks us through his incredible journey and also discusses some of the more controversial aspects of being a vent including threat of material.

Aug 24th, 2018 by magicianspodcast at 2:47 am

A special episode recorded during the 2018 Edinburgh Festival, Richard revisits six previous guests who are all performing at the festival with their own shows for a catch up. Featuring Piff The Magic Dragon, Ben Hart, Ben Hanlin, Harry De Cruz, John Lenahan and Pete Firman.



BEN HART (45.42)

BEN HANLIN (1:05.11)

HARRY DE CRUZ (1:27.40)

JOHN LENAHAN (1:53.06)

PETE FIRMAN (2:17.30)


Sep 9th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 1:00 am

One of the world's greatest living magicians takes to my hot seat for the series finale. Derren Brown has changed mentalism in our industry forever and become a household name in the process. He has produced more television content over the last 15 years than any other British magician and also produced seven full evening stage shows full of original presentations, methods and thinking. An unexpected part of Derren's incredible success has been the spawning of an entire generation of magicians who rip of his psychological presentations and material, what does the man himself really think of the Derren clones? His answer may surprise you.

Sep 2nd, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 5:00 am

Stuart MacLeod is one half of the double act Barry & Stuart. I would recommend you listen to Barry's episode first (episode 70) before you listen to this one as it follows on perfectly. In this interview Stuart discusses their influences, why commercial success was never their plan, why they decided to expose all of the secrets to the tricks in one of their Edinburgh shows, his solo projects including the soon to open Band of Magicians show on the Las Vegas strip. Stuart also explains how they are able to continue as a double act today despite the fact that they live on different continents. 

Sep 2nd, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 2:05 am

Barry Jones is half of the double act Barry & Stuart, they are without question two of the most creative and innovative magicians in the world today and over the last 15 years they have produced an incredible body of original work. In this interview Barry discusses their journey from rural Scotland to the bright lights of London where they made their own TV series for Channel 4 in their early twenties called Magick, he also talks about their time as featured performers on the BBC1 show 'The Magicians' including the night The Slicer illusion they were performing went wrong on Live TV. I also ask Barry about their Live shows, their upcoming appearance on ITV1's 'The Next Great Magician' featuring the incredible 'Barry's Belly' trick and how he and Stuart have kept their double act going strong despite Stuart moving to America.

Aug 26th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 3:10 am

It is always great to hear an enthusiastic young magician talk about the magic world and how they view its past, present and future. This week Harry De Cruz takes to my hot seat, he is the youngest magician to ever do so. Harry is only 22 however for the last 4 years he has worked in the very heart of team DYNAMO and has been at Steven Frayne's side throughout the TV shows, national arena tours and publicity stunts, Harry has also recently been working alongside Paul Kieve and has some big plans for his own performing future. This episode also features the first ever pair of magicians to gate crash a podcast recording, Alan Hudson and Tom Elderfield add in their 2 cents.

Aug 19th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 12:31 am

The lovely Debbie McGee takes to my hot seat this week to discuss her incredible life and career as both a ballet dancer and also as one half of the most famous magic double act in the UK over the last 30 years. Debbie talks about her marriage to Paul Daniels, the TV shows, the West End run, the live shows, the Louis Theroux and 'Wife Swap' documentaries, as well as sitting on Mrs Merton's sofa when she asked that very famous question. Debbie also talks about her future plans and your host points out an amazing potential new avenue that Debbie could go down in the world of magic at the end of the interview.

Aug 11th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 11:00 pm

This is possibly the most thought provoking episode I have released in a long time. I have tried to convince Ben to be a guest on the podcast since the very beginning and today is the day he finally sits and talks to me about his incredible approach to magic. Ben doesn't do interviews for magicians, so I am honoured that he choose to speak to you via this podcast. We go right back to the start of his professional career to discuss his DVD Past Midnight, we talk about why he decided to try and fool Penn & Teller rather than the how he fooled them. Ben also talks candidly about his Channel 4 series Trick Artist. Did he really ask security to eject the magicians he spotted in the studio audience? He answers that question in this podcast with 100% honesty. Ben is just beginning the start of a new journey for him and his magic, a project he calls Neo-Movement which is an approach to magic which makes sleights invisible and magic look purer than ever before.

Aug 4th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 11:00 pm

Professor Richard Wiseman takes to my hot seat this week to discuss his incredible (and often magical) viral videos, he shares an amazing insight into the success of his YouTube channel Quirkology. He also talks about the framing of magic, being a guest at EMC, the new Quirkology Marvin's Magic set and his fantastic books. This is also the very first episode ever to feature an unexpected (and unwelcome) co-host.

Jul 28th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 11:09 pm

On the eve of his 90th birthday the living legend and International Man of Mystery David Berglas takes to The Magicians' Podcast hot seat to discuss his incredible life and career. He shares the story of how he secured his own television series on the BBC in the most unusual way, the cabaret scene in the 50's and 60's an amazing effect which he created where a real pear appears inside a milk bottle (he shares the secret too). David also discusses The Berglas Effect, his time as President of The Magic Circle and his thoughts on his son Marvin running for President.

Jul 14th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 11:15 pm

Katherine Mills is the first female magician in the UK to secure her own TV Series, the show called 'Mind Games' was commissioned and broadcast on the same channel Dynamo found fame on and in this interview she shares the 'ups' of securing the series and the 'downs' of its demise after one series. We also discuss Help! My Supply Teacher is Magic both the TV version and Live show and also her very brief time in the West End show Impossible. Katherine also shares some great tips and advice from many years working as a gigging female magician that any budding female performer should hear.

Jul 7th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 10:16 pm

Epistemic paradigms? Peddling epistemological agendas? I don't know what they mean either, but Max Somerset does, a man who a decade ago was doing more magic on television than anyone else. He was Max in Max Magic on Sky, The Sorcerer on The Sorcerer's Apprentice on BBC1 and then he was mugged and left in a bad way in a brutal unprovoked attack in the street in which he lives. He tells the story of that attack and how it made him re-evaluate his outlook on life in this weeks podcast. Max also talks in detail about his chance encounter with the 1992 Formula 1 World Champion Nigel Mansell who he has helped to recover from a major accident in a racing car by helping him learn magic.

Jun 30th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 11:16 pm

Canadian born Billy Kidd started life as a child actor and didn't find magic until her twenties. She now lives in Bath and has done it all including street performing, close-up, stage and a ton of television, later this year you will see her on ITV1 attempting to become 'The Next Great Magician' too. In this interview Billy gives us an incredible insight in to what it's like to be a female in our male dominated industry. 

Jun 23rd, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 1:25 pm

Guy Hollingworth is a Barrister and one of the most influential card magicians of the last twenty years. This week he takes to my hot seat to discuss his book, the torn and restored card effect, his new stage act and also provides the greatest ever answer during the word association part of the show.

Mar 25th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 3:59 am

Bruce Smith has worked for Marvin's Magic since day one at ground zero on the shop floor in Hamleys of Regent's Street. In this interview he talks about the art of the magic demonstration, shares his stories of performing for Michael Jackson after closing time and also discusses the amazing list of magicians who have worked for the company over the past 30 years and shares some anecdotes of some of the big names including Stephen Mulhern, Marc Paul and Andy Nyman.

Mar 25th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 3:21 am

Derren Brown's BAFTA and Olivier award winning co-writers join me to discuss the incredible projects they have worked on and provide an incredible insight into the man himself. They also provide a fascinating insight in to the writing process they go through together. 

Mar 17th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 10:21 pm

A former investment analyst who went on to become The President of The Magic Circle, Scott Penrose takes to my hot seat to discuss his love of illusions, what he hates about bird acts, his consultancy work, and the club which he now represents as President.

Mar 11th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 2:19 am

How hard can it really be to get a famous magician to say his catchphrase? You are about to find out! Geoffrey needs no introduction, he is a legend in our industry and during his career he performed on television over 700 times. In this interview he discusses why he quit performing, his thoughts on the magic world today and why you absolutely should have a trick with liquid in your show.

Mar 3rd, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 1:44 pm

This is the first podcast ever recorded outside of the UK and comes to you from the bright lights of Las Vegas! A few years ago John Van Der Put was a jobbing Close-Up Magician in London, he now has his own show at The Flamingo on The Strip in Las Vegas alongside Mr Piffles as Piff The Magic Dragon. This interview covers his extraordinary journey.

Feb 26th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 12:22 am

Mike Caveney was passing through the UK for just over a week to perform in The Magic Circle Christmas Show. He managed to find some time to have a fantastic chat with me about his amazing act, his books, the history of magic, his incredible historical magic collection, the conference on magic history which he organises and also the future of the history of magic. 

Feb 17th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 5:18 pm

Derek Lever is the organiser of the world's largest magic convention in Blackpool, in this episode he gives us the story of how he came to be involved in the convention, why he often bans people from the event and also what it's like to book acts from all over the world. Derek also shares with us what he would still dearly love to see happen on the Opera House stage, a hand shake between two living magical legends.

Feb 11th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 6:58 am

Noel Qualter has won the prize for originality for the last 3 years in a row at The Magic Circle Close-Up Magician of the Year Competition. He is a working professional, consultant and has also had a close call with some big time television success. This is perhaps the most gut wrenching story on the podcast to date, as Noel explains how he was cut from a major prime time TV magic show not once, but twice.

Feb 4th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 1:45 pm

This week I speak to one of the most creative magicians on the planet about his incredible body of work, Kevin James. He talks about his experience on America's Got Talent and being in the world's largest touring magic show The Illusionists. Kevin also talks openly about the creation of his incredible Sawing in Half Illusion: The Operation.

Jan 28th, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 1:33 pm

Simon Painter is the producer of the biggest touring magic show on the planet The Illusionists. In this episode he discusses how the show came to be, why he books the acts he does, the death of one of the cast members and the incredible West End and Broadway runs that happened simultaneously in December 2015. 

If you dream of one day being in this show, this episode is a blueprint to The Illusionists stage.
Jan 21st, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 8:11 pm

Canadian born Darcy Oake takes to my hot seat in the season 3 double bill launch to address his critics in this controversial episode. 

With great success often comes great criticism and Darcy talks openly about his experiences with Criss Angel in Las Vegas, the details of why Rick Thomas publicly criticised his version of the double levitation and also the reasons that he and Russ Stevens will never work together again. 

Darcy also shares his Britain's Got Talent experience and talks about his ITV1 television special.
Jan 21st, 2016 by magicianspodcast at 7:54 pm

Season 3 begins with Sam Strange who is half of the double act Young & Strange (the other half being your host) to celebrate the fact Strange is finally on the show your host decides to introduce a bowl and some pieces of paper to keep the interviewing flowing nicely. 

Strange discusses his hero Martin Sanderson, setting fire to the top table at a wedding, Penn & Teller: Fool Us, performing at funerals and touring David Copperfield's museum and warehouse in Las Vegas.
Oct 8th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 12:16 pm

This is the series finale with the biggest star in UK magic today. This incredible insight into the world and mind of Steven Frayne was recorded a few days before the start of his nationwide theatre and arena tour. 

Incredibly nothing was off limits and he discusses the way his TV show is edited, Criss Angel and a host of other controversial topics. His openness will surprise you and earn your respect.
Oct 8th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 11:58 am

The series reaches it's conclusion with a double bill of episodes with the two guys behind the biggest brand in UK magic today.

Dan Albion is the manager of DYNAMO and in this episode he shares the story of how they met and their incredible journey to fame and fortune. 
Oct 1st, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 10:26 am

Andrew O'Connor was The Young Magician of the Year in 1981 and had a successful career in television as a presenter, in the early 90's he co-founded Objective Productions with Michael Vine (See episode 45 for his side of the story) and together they discovered Derren Brown. They sold the business in the mid 2000's for millions of pounds after which Andrew moved to L.A to make movies. 

Andrew does not hold back in this interview and shares some interesting opinions on magicians egos, The Magic Circle and your hosts obsessions.
Sep 24th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 11:54 am

This episode is the first ever podcast recorded in front of a Live audience at The Magic Circle Headquarters. A Live audience calls for a lively guest and Michael Vine is exactly that in this extraordinary interview. He is one of the cofounders of Objective Productions which is responsible for most of the magic you have seen on TV over the last 15 years. He also manages the career of Derren Brown and provides an incredible insight in to his amazing world.

Sep 17th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 1:21 am

The legendary Paul Daniels takes to my hot seat to discuss his incredible career in this epic 2 hour interview. We discuss his rise to fame, the TV show, his West End run and his thoughts on the magic world today. Paul also answers the questions you left on our Facebook page and Twitter feed.

Sep 10th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 1:44 pm

Michael Vincent is without question one of the finest sleight of hand magicians the UK has to offer and he is in my hot seat this week to share stories of his mentors, his amazing card magic, appearing twice on Penn & Teller: Fool Us and the DVD sets he released a few years ago with Alakazam.

Sep 3rd, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 2:41 pm

The incredible Jonathan Goodwin talks to me in this episode about his amazing stunts and television appearances. He shares the story of what it is like to hang upside down in a straight jacket from a burning rope on the London Eye. I also ask Jonathan what the difference is between the West End show Impossible and the Broadway spectacular The Illusionists (he stars in both).

Sep 3rd, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 1:56 pm

This week Paul Gordon joins me to discuss the new DVD set of his work which he is releasing through Alakazam shortly. Paul also shares some funny stories from gigs, lecturing for magicians at conventions and magic clubs, his favourite magic books and discusses some of his own creations. 

Aug 20th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 12:41 pm

In this episode I talk to Marc Kerstein, a young London based magician who has been creating innovative and original magic in the last couple of years which has got him noticed by the likes of David Blaine and Derren Brown (he has actually worked for both already). Marc also tells me why he doesn't like doing gigs and why he left a career with a major bank to chase his dream of being a professional magician.

Marc's website:
Aug 13th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 1:37 pm

Marc Paul is a really interesting magician because he was right in the middle of the magic world when there was a search for a new star after the end of the Paul Daniels era. We also discuss his appearance on the Parkinson TV show, the sale of one of his effects to David Copperfield and the benefit of a period of time in your life where you have a fully immersive experience.

Aug 6th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 11:34 am

Alan is originally from Hull and moved to London to chase his dream. He's done everything including prime time national television, thousands of real world gigs, kids magic and several runs at The Edinburgh Fringe. Oh and he's also done the KFC Christmas party too.

This episode also includes a brilliant format for Close-Up Magic which Alan invented which solves all the problems of the house party gig.

Jul 30th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 11:35 pm

Comedy magician and author Ian Keable is in my hot seat in this episode to discuss why after graduating from Oxford University and landing a stable job as an accountant he decided to quit and become a magician. We also talk about his appearance on New Faces, his three amazing books and his thoughts on reviews in the magic world, from both a reviewers perspective and the subjects.

Jul 30th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 11:13 pm

This week I speak to Jez Rose about his various careers in magic to date. He shares with us his time at Marvin's Magic, the controversy he caused when he entered The Young Magician of the Year (for not doing enough magic) and his experience making a TV special for ITV.

Jul 24th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 12:45 am

To coincide with the opening of the West End's new magic show Impossible I sit down with one of the stars of the show Chris Cox. 

Chris has had an amazing career so far as 'the mind reader who doesn't read minds' and also as a producer for BBC Radio 1. Chris talks openly about being a hustler in the early days to get his career off the ground and also the recent BBC3 series Killer Magic in which he also starred.
Jul 16th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 2:18 pm

The big fish I have been trying to catch for the podcast since the beginning of the project is finally in my hot seat! This is an amazingly open and candid interview about Andy Nyman's life and career. 

This episode truly has a little bit of everything. I hope you love it as much as I do.

Jul 7th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 12:23 pm

The Vice President of The Magic Circle Richard Pinner takes to my hot seat to answer my questions regarding the past, present and future of the Club. We also discuss close-up magic, working cruises, children's entertainment and his theatre consultancy work. 

Jul 2nd, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 9:32 pm

The first double act to appear on The Magicians' Podcast and what a cracking episode this is! Morgan & West have an incredibly strong work ethic and have come up with hours of original material for their Edinburgh shows, they have also got their foot in the door with Electric Talent Management and reveal in this episode how they did it. We also discuss how they fooled Penn & Teller and the public's reaction to the way it was edited.

Morgan & West's website:
Jun 25th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 11:15 am

This is a fantastic episode! Richard Cadell has had an amazing life and he shares it all here. We discuss Richard winning The Young Magician of the Year, working as an illusionist and how/why his illusion career ended. Richard is also very open about how the move to hosting Sooty came about and how he ended up owning the brand. 

Here's the best bit: this weeks episode features special guests Sooty & Sweep!
Jun 18th, 2015 by magicianspodcast at 1:16 pm

This week we discuss the world of children's magic with Paul Megram (aka Colonel Custard). We discuss his background, how he built up his business and the way he keeps his clients re-booking year after year. Paul is an amazing businessman and his techniques and approaches could easily be applied to any branch of magic. This episode also contains one of the funniest stories of the series so far, when (much to Paul's horror) all the kids decided to drop their trousers during the middle of his show.